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Love or Islam ?
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1/11/2014 answer on a thread about the video interview of Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Love is eternal truth, hate is the false prophet!
Those who bowed before Hitler's rule also have to answer to the utter cruelty they did to others, even following orders. If one says the Koran and Mohammed themselves have been hijacked by a false spirit, which says here that there is no compulsion in religion, and further on says that 'no other religion will be tolerated' (other than their butchering mind hijacking Islam) , I agree with you. Whoever violates another, throws stones at, cuts off heads and hands, does not have the right to call himself a friend, a brother, a husband, a father, a prophet or a master. Honestly, would you do that to your husband or wife you love even if he/she betrayed you? Or cut a hand of another for theft, or kill someone if he/she left you, (like these order you to kill those who leave the Islam? To think anyone will go to heaven for doing this, butchering people, like one mad with jealousy if his wife betrays him, is the work of a devil not a God. Those who are lying are those who do not reject the violence of Islam. True are those who embrace the justice of love, true are those who destroy, not the evil hateful person, but the evil the hate itself. The God of Islam is not a father, and the God-father of any religion which preaches discrimination of belief is not a good father, because its rule is not that of wisdom and love but of dominium at all costs, even at the cost of love and wisdom.
I would rather bow to the true love of a single human than to the arrogance of a so-called prophet-God.
This answer will be published on this page:
You say your Allah is Great
I say true love is Greater!
28 Oct 2014
Is this man still free? Here is a clear declaration from a Hitler of the Caliphate: Anjem Choudary, shouting his allegiance to and revealing what really is the Terrorist Islamic State (the initials should actually be T.I.S.):(ISIS): 'One is considered guilty, until proved to be Muslim'.
Video sent to Obama and Prime Minister Cameron:
This is their war declaration against all and everything that is not an archaic form of government, Mohammed’s Islam, in itself a violation against all the culture and the rest of religions of humanity, against what science says (for example over the climate change), against music and art, and above all, against love, reason, consciousness and spirituality.
Why? Muslims are divided within themselves, because Mohammed taught not to love but to hate those who did not believe him, (note: to judge or kill on the basis of a belief is to kill without a proof, therefore it is no justice at all, to any rational being).
And Muslims are divided between themselves, because the Koran contradicts itself and justifies you to kill someone who contradicts it (thus absurd!.For example it says there is no compulsion in Islam, and says you may kill a Muslim if he wants to leave Islam).
Therefore must contradict themselves and kill each other because that contradiction is what they believe to be the Word of God!!!
So the fanatic followers of the Islamic State of Mohammed will never have peace. You do not have to be a prophet to predict this.
And as Lao Tsé said, so long ago, those who are violent end up by destroying each other as they are doing indeed...and as Jesus said, Matthew 5:5 ' blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth'.
Urgent! Security warning: - Update your God !
For peaceful, intelligent solution of terrorism
Update your (understanding of) God
Copy of a letter to Premier of Belgium,
explaining a dialogue of a philosophic project: on the website of Naturestudio.net
Dear premier Verhofstadt,
once I wrote to President Bush that the best war on terror is a good question.
Violence is a stupid argument or way to convert anyone.
This is what I also say to the adepts of the Islam.
Let me offer you a part of a dialogue with a Turk in Gent which I published on my website.
This is the confrontation between a spiritual notion of love and the justice in a relationship
and the notion of the Islam that came through and during this dialogue.
My first language is Portuguese.
In spite the fact that I have not let revise the texts by an English teacher yet,
my understanding of this conflict is crystal clear.
If Muslim terrorists could understand what I want to say
and were sincere, the problem would be solved!
Best wishes,
van Chapman, Philosophic Community project
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Letter to president Obama
9 October 2014
Dear president Obama,
My sympathy for your gracious leadership and tremendous effort to keep up with so many issues to be resolved in this world.
I sincerely hope to help you understand the question of ISIS from a spiritual, non-religious perspective.
Let me confirming what Brother Rashid said to you :
in "A Message to President Obama from a former Muslim"
( https://plus.google.com/100481145869768252885/videos ).
Understanding the real nature of the problem of ISIS is crucial for solving it.
A call to self- awareness to Jihadists is needed, as well as to the awareness
that a fanatic, unquestioning belief, is not conducive to love and sincerity.
Love and sincere self-awareness alone could liberate us from religious
or other form of tyranny.
Best wishes for all.
Philosophic Community Project -
van Chapman
For a peaceful and intelligent solution to terrorism.
https://twitter.com/van_chapman/media
Here are some related tweets and other Facebook posts:
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Rather than kill unbelievers wherever you find them,
kill falsehood wherever you find
-even in your holy books!
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Jihad unveiled: lying and murder may defend beliefs, not truth.
It only reveals how false, murderous are their beliefs!
A terrorist mind has been hijacked by a belief.
Ask a jihadist what he prefers: -Questions, or bombs?
If you question (the belief) you will be sentenced to death and hell.
If someone questions it, (the belief) kill him and send him to hell.
Holy war? End hypocrisy, and the hypocrite is no more!
End stupidity, and the stupid one ceases to be."
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J. Krishnamurti, a wise man, once said:
"How can a mind full of beliefs be clear?"
There have been wise men throughout history,
like him Lao Tzu, Buddha,
who warned against indiscriminate,
unquestioning following, even of themselves.
If we, humans, descend from the apes,
or if our ancestors were barbarians,
(even if at the time, they were less barbarians than most,)
should we venerate them, today and imitate their behaviour,
even in their slaughter?
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Let me be honest with you,
because a Muslim who is trying to seduce you
to his "religion of Peace" will probably not
or no one would be seduced!:
In a Islamic State, you are a Muslim
if you are born of Muslim parents.
You may not have chosen the Islam,
but the punishment for leaving Islam,
(in some Islamic States), is the death sentence!
- Sahih Muslim, 16:4152
The Koran contradicts itself in this,
saying there is no compulsion in religion.
So what is true?
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If diametrically opposite commands
like these can co-exist,
in their Koran or other Islamic teachings,
there is cause for bloody conflict
in the teachings themselves.
Muslims are divided in this issue. Is this their fault?
No. But they may not blame the religion.
That is also called apostasy in Islam.
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From what I read, this is exactly what is happening
since the death of Mohammed.
between for example Shiite and Sunni Muslims.
Because of this terror religious doctrine,
that sanctions killing
in name of God, Muslims are killing each other,
over almost any difference of belief!
According to critics of Mohammed, as Moses before him,
he has even killed for a criticism!
And that is not intelligent, is it?
Such is the belief of the Muslims.
But not as they see it,
if they may not be critical of the Islam.
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Phobia means fear. irrational fear -
I neither fear or hate Muslims.
Muslims learn to fear Islam, submit to it: believe or die!
They are Islamophobes, Islam fearing, not I.
For me, God is love. Islam not.
Love is stronger.
I would not kill someone for their belief,
as ISIS in a Jihad does.
Instead, I would try to reason with Mohammed and his God:
-What if I said:
"-You are free to love me or not"?
That would be loving, fair, not?
But if I said: "-Love me or I will kill you",
or:"-If you leave me I will kill you,"
what for a person would I be?
A beast?
What has possessiveness to do with wisdom and love?
What does this have to do with the Most Graceful?
1- "There is no compulsion in religion."
2- "No other religion other than Islam will be allowed."
3 -"The punishment for leaving Islam is the death penalty."
I am free to see what I see.
(I see this basic contradiction with love in Islam.).
If I must believe it makes sense when it does not,
and I will be killed, the fundamentals of Islam violate
a fundamental right of consciousness :
to see for itself!
Philosophic Community Project -
van Chapman
For a peaceful and intelligent solution to terrorism
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(Quote)"a few minutes ago, a minority in the United States Senate decided it wasn't worth it. They blocked common-sense gun reforms even while these families looked on from the Senate gallery.
By now, it's well known that 90 percent of the American people support universal background checks that make it harder for a dangerous person to buy a gun. We're talking about convicted felons, people convicted of domestic violence, people with a severe mental illness. Ninety percent of Americans support that idea. Most Americans think that's already the law.
And a few minutes ago, 90 percent of Democrats in the Senate just voted for that idea. But it's not going to happen because 90 percent of Republicans in the Senate just voted against that idea. " (end quote).
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I see it is a shame to Republicans.
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Sent previously to the Whitehouse
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What to do to change the weapon possession race in the US as in the rest of the World?
The answer is simple ’Do not do to others what you would not like to be done to yourself.’
As by American Foreign Policy the right to (Nuclear) arms possession is to be strictly forbidden to terrorists, and limited to countries or individuals who fully comply with human rights, so should the same as a law apply within the US for the arms possession of each member State or individual citizen.
Arm the just and fair, unarm the unjust and unfair, so one may not need to resort to deadly weapons, for
true angels destroy not men, but the falseness in them.
van Chapman
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To dear Obama
Re: Thank You for Your Message
If you say America is not and will never be at war with the Islam.
I understand by that you say that consciousness is not at war with someone but simply sees what is wrong in his or her thinking, and in doing so, is free of it. To hate is not to be free of it. But to see something as it is is to be free of it.
Anyway it is better to hate falsity (for example in an ideology or belief ) than to hate the people who might be with false thoughts, false beliefs or under an illusion.
Even so, it is better to kill a head mass murderer criminal terrorist than to let a terrorist inspire others to kill a nation of people, just because they were Americans, or Jews, or Christians as Bin Laden would have liked to.
If you read the life of the Prophet , and the Koran, like Bin Laden, they promote discrimination of people according to their belief and sentence those ultimately to subjulgation, slavery or death, if they do not willingly convert to the Islam.
But If you say that terrorism is not a part of the true Islam,
What do you do with sentences in the Koran like: (Surah 4:89 -"Those who reject Islam must be killed. If they turn back (from Islam), take (hold of) them and kill them wherever you find them...")?
And if you admit that terrorism is indeed part of the Islam, that its deology promotes the opposite of what you stand for (freedom from discrimination on basis of belief, and belief on the essential consciousness in all humans), do you think the solution will be in killing those who follow the fundamental violence of this ideology, or in revealing, bringing to light the contradictions within this ideology, therefore helping to free the minds of fanatic blind followers, even if Muslims might take any criticism on their belief as war against the Islam and as a reason for war against you?
For Muslims dialogue with unbelievers is not desirable because one may not question the Belief of the Prophet. In fact, as I wrote to President Bush, terrorists are not afraid of bombs, but of questions.
Thank you for bringing hope to the world.
Geraldine Chapman
artist name: van Chapman
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Answer from OBAMA
April 8, 2011
Dear Friend:
Thank you for writing. I have heard from many Americans about animal welfare, and I value your input.
I am committed to making my Administration the most open and transparent in history, and part of delivering on that promise is hearing from people like you. I take seriously your opinions and respect your point of view on this important matter. Please know that your concerns will be on my mind in the days ahead.
Thank you again for writing. I encourage you to visit www.WhiteHouse.gov to learn more about my Administration or to contact me in the future.
Sincerely,
Barack Obama
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100 000 T Nuclear waste in the seas and the equally heavy and deadly silence of the local governmental authorities: for example near the coasts of 'Europe.
Film 'Océans poubelles' ( in French)
Join us for 24 Hours of Reality
Letter from Al Gore
Dear Geraldine,
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We’ll hear from the people and places witnessing firsthand the devastation of extreme weather events. I’m joining 23 Climate Presenters from around the globe to deliver a new multimedia presentation that will broadcast the reality of the climate crisis. The entire 24 hours will be streamed live online from start to finish.
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To Al Gore, from the 'climate reality project': This is the artist your friend.
Humanity can solve the climate change problem if we can collaborate instead of competing or going to war against each other.
'Once I heard the question: -" Can Art save the world ?". What can save the world is not a matter of taste but of consciousness. It is Not a mode, a style of Art, but to unite a true, kind and just spirit in action, in whatever work we do. To be humble enough to see what is, and not prejudge anyone, anything; not even out of belief.
There is nothing substantially new in a work of art, or revolution, when you substitute one vanity of power for another, one prejudice for another.'
From 'What is relevant in Art today',
Note: see the video of Abstract waterforms 1 from Mysticwater at :
http://www.naturestudio.net/index.html
you will like it!
Greetings from van Chapman -Philosophic Community Projects -
Some words about an audio visual
Garden Angel project
Letter to Al Gore about a Naturestudio project
Dear Al Gore,
Thank you from my heart for your care for nature and mankind.
Here is what I wrote to an Audio Visual Funds giving organization about our Garden Angel project.
WE CO-CREATE or CO-PRODUCE WITH NATURE,
For example in creating a garden which provides a nature reserve for bio diversity, as Myriam Vandenberghe did in our atelier in Europe, or simply taking inspiration from nature for our work, and promoting it, inspiring people to do the same.
Our philosophical works, drawing, painting and photos are based on the creative mind which can be sensitive to the wonders of the ever new and artistic forms of Nature itself.
The reason for the project Garden Angel, is the goal of Naturestudio,
(A WZV or non-profit society).
(Article 2).a. To promote spiritual self awareness to counterbalance to the spiritual poverty in this World.
b. To sensibilise people for the beauty of nature and the good heart through art and philosophy.
c. To find peaceful solutions to world conflicts
d. To promote better relationships through the creation of philosophic cultural and art works projects and events.
We ask people to stop destroying nature and the world we live with all the disrespect and useless vanity and wars.
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Naturestudio literally means the atelier is Nature.
This is my questioning of some contemporary concepts of Art:
What is more art ?
'Beauty is truth, truth beauty,-that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know'. (Keats).
What is more Art, what is to Create, in the true sense of the word in the deepest sense? A 'manipulation' of images, no matter how commercial, low and vulgar, as we find everywhere in commercial and false publications and in the web, (such as much of that "power boasting","power loving" Rap music graffiti art of street mafia and criminal gangs, or silly soap opera exaggerations, Flemish or not, or an act if spiritual integrity and compassion, even if it is just A STATE OF BEING?
IF a funds organization is more intend on sponsoring the first, because it can sell, and not the second, our concept of art is not compatible.
Being is the ultime art in life. How can that which is and sounds false be more art than that which is and sounds true, in whatever expression of being.
One can only create, in the true sense of the word, by promoting spiritual self awareness, and that is only possible through being spiritually self aware oneself. All the rest is futility.
In a geographic way, what the scenario is and where: between a tropical forest river and a private 'nature reserve' in the heart of Gent, Myriam's garden.
About the personage, Myriam is a poetic personage in herself, as nature is, and to be sensitive to her as to be sensitive to nature is to be inspired, and even if she or nature have unreasonable sides, they inspire you to be a philosopher.
Written by the producer
van Chapman
Gent, Belgium, 22/01/2011
www.naturestudio.net
Here an invitation for a Hangout; tomorrow, June 11, at 2pm EDT sent by Al Gore to Naturestudio.
Maybe the invitation can be extended to you. Here a list of ten actions you can take right now on climate change
Geraldine van Chapman
www.naturestudio.net
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----- Original Message -----
From: Al Gore
To: Geraldine Chapman
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:55 PM
Subject: An Inconvenient Truth
Dear Geraldine,
Seven years ago, I was honored to have my presentation on climate change turned into a movie called An Inconvenient Truth. To this day, I am consistently gratified when people tell me that the film opened their eyes to the climate crisis, and that it has encouraged and inspired acts of leadership, big and small, around the world.
In honor of the seventh anniversary of the film's release, I'm pleased to invite you to join me for an interactive Google Hangout with my good friend Jeff Skoll tomorrow, June 11, at 2pm EDT. We will talk about some key developments in the climate effort since the film originally came out. Most importantly, I want to invite you to participate in shaping the conversation by submitting your questions and watching the Hangout here.
Also, as part of the anniversary celebration, The Climate Reality Project has helped put together this list of ten actions you can take right now on climate change. I hope that you'll visit the site, share it with your friends, and get inspired!
Sincerely,
Al Gore
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Good day Norway and Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg!
TO THE PRESS
This is the travelling artist (Geraldine) van Chapman, artist who lived and painted in a cabin in Budor ( Loten , Norway) in the 80's.
So long ago, but the beauty of Nature in Norway is still fresh in my mind and heart.
Norway is now on the news about the trial of Anders Behring Breivik, and I like to send a letter to him to try to dissolve misunderstandings in support of all Norwegians.
Letter to the mass murderer Behring Breivik on behalf of the Norwegian people.
18 April 2012-
Behring Breivik, during your trial you proudly argue that if one judges you have done evil, one does not know the difference between good and evil.
OK, You are a thinker. So let us think together. Let us talk about good and evil, about Justice, what is fair.
Pay attention to this:
What are you defending? The truth or a belief? Love or simply the love of power ?
Violence creates fear, blind submission, which is the dark side of all violent belief systems and ways. You can create a belief, like the Islam, but not consciousness though fear and terrorism.
Norway's Justice gives you a trial, where you can explain yourself, what is fair, but when you gave 'your capital punishment' to 77 Norwegian citizens, without a trial, without first giving a chance for a dialogue, for explaining yourselves to each other, have you been fair, have you been just to them?? NO.
What you have done is you condemned those people with a death sentence, for their political views, for their belief (in a democratic dialogue, not in tyranny).
You condemned them for what you believe is wrong with their thinking.
Have you helped them to think better, by killing them?
Would you have liked if Norway had not given you the chance to explain yourself, and rather have judged you and killed you for what you did? Of course not. If you, who has killed so many people got a trial, why did they not deserve one?
Is it fair to condemn and kill someone without a trial simply out of a belief we have about him, or because of a belief he has?
Is violence such as yours better in any relationship or as a political method than to be open for dialogue as those people you killed?
The unquestionable authority which can condemn without a fair trial (and kill) someone for a belief, is the the injustice not only of the violent Jihadists of the Islam, but in all proud tyrannical rule, whether of religious, nationalistic, ideological or individualistic nature.
From a philosophical point of view, the injustice in the Islamic violence against unbelievers is the same unintelligence exemplified in an act of terrorism such as yours against your own people, for so called nationalistic purposes.
Fundamentalist Muslim terrorists are afraid of questioning, not of killing with bombs.
They rather kill others than be questioned in their authority. Therefore they kill unbelievers. Do you see it??
Fundamentalist Muslim terrorists, maybe imitating their Prophet, do not see the stupidity, the lack of intelligence of brutal violence as an argument against or for defending a belief on the truth.
Do you see this?? If you do not see it, your way is not better than that of the militant Islamic terrorist .
Violence is not the way for consciousness to become clear. On the contrary...
If you see it, then I will believe you have a consciousness.
So please, for Justice and your own good, respect the Norwegian people and Court, who give you a fair trial, realize what you have done and humbly admit you were not just to kill and terrorize all those people..
Would you like to be killed for your beliefs?
Do not do to others what you would not have done to yourself.
True angels destroy not men, but the falseness in them. You cannot enlighten someone by cutting off his head.
Your friend in love of the truth
van Chapman
-Philosophic Community Projects -
www.naturestudio.net
EXPLAINING:
Guru-disciple is a timeless traditional form of relation,
of total submission to the other's authority,
(similar to a soldier towards a general in the army)
All gurus like your Babagi, claim to be one with God, whether they really are or not.
What in many some cases results in disaster.
You said Budda was a enlightened being.
you leveled Buddha to your Yogananda, what is nice of you to do:
You wrote:
'That is why God sent his illumined masters to the world.
Masters such as Buddha, Krishna, Jesus Christ, Paramhansa Yogananda,
and so many others who are true gurus.'
But (SURPRISE! ) read what he taught:
"Do not believe in anything, not matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."
-Buddha
(translation 1)
"Believe nothing no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and common sense."
~Buddha
(translation 2)
To me, simply, Buddha was wiser,
maybe not more sweet than your guru.
But as you say, all have the good of others at heart.
OK?
From: Naturestudio
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:40 PM
True communion exists between those who share awareness,
not between those who share mere suppositions or beliefs.
If one could only reason from a standpoint of spiritual self awareness,
millenary tyranny of beliefs would fall as shadows in the presence of light.
If you have the autobiography of Yogananda,
read the chapter he wrote on the sin of Adam and Eve.
He is very specific about his belief that the sexual act was the original sin.
Then to become one with God one has to become a renunciate,
like a Catholic priest, consider a sin even for him to look with desire to a woman,
with all the guilt etc
To say if you marry (in the church) you do not sin,
is a silly thing to say.
St Augustine's vision and mine in this sense are the same:
Love truly and do what you will.
If sex outside the marriage in the church is a sin
then myriad forms of life are not God's creation.
Flowers are the sex of plants.
Only the manifestations of the non innocent ego in Nature are ugly, in my eyes.
the innocence of nature is beautiful.
The pure consciousness can penetrate and uncover the hidden beauty in nature,
in all beings.
The light projects its order and beauty on the earth,
on matter in its state of chaos,
and the myriad life-forms appear
like changing waves of a river;
water drops, curls, waterfalls,
designs and sculptures in an infinite succession.
In friendship no one is superior to another.
All there is, in true love,
is being true and clear
or not being true or clear
at a certain time.
Nature in its original purity is not driven by competitive egos,
prejudices or beliefs, but is as being one, in love.
Unquestioning followers are not loyal.
Indiscriminate subservience to a superior,
as in the army, is the beginning of indiscriminate actions.
If a child can be taught to really care for his mother, for example,
he will not need to be shouted upon not to disturb her.
Repression is the way of education of authority, of violence, not wisdom.
If you love truly someone, you are no longer a slave of material desires,
nor a slave of an authority or repressive rules of behaviour.
Love is the truth
and the truth will set you free even of beliefs.
Even the imperfect Bible,
which is promoting unquestioning belief
in what is written or on someone,
testifies that love is perfect,
but no one else is.
Love,
Supreme Court: Both sides in gay marriage debate
commentary by van Chapman
8 dec 2012
Religions around the world have made horrible crimes of jealousy such as lapidation seem Godly and true long lasting love relations between people to seem abominable. Human Rights means to stand above such prejudices. There is no true spiritual value, even in the so called holy books, or traditions in discriminating people spiritually for their sex.
Traditions without living love are like the parrot's repetitions.
Living love is the only spirit which is sacred. There are no sacred traditions.
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Dear terrorist
Dear terrorist, let me give you a philosophic hand- an insight:
-In a discussion about what love is, it would be really absurd, stupid,
if we kill each other, to prove we love best. Not so? Likewise, in a discussion over difference of belief, nothing is more absurd, beastly and idiotic than if we killed one another to prove our belief is wiser!
If we can eliminate ignorance, pride and arrogance from our own heart,
we will understand that our true adversary is the ignorance, not the ignorant (person).
Our true enemy is our spiritual ignorance not ourselves,
not the other person, who might be arrogant, proud, spiritually ignorant.
In the quest of and love for the truth, violence,
as an argument, is the most idiotic, the most beastly of all.
Even some beasts, through our love, can become our friends.
Even beasts do not deserve our hate, or torturing them.
Believe what you like, but condemn or violate no one for a belief.
Any violence based on belief is an injustice. Why?
Because you cannot condemn without proof, and a belief is not a proof !
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A terrorist unveiled:
In a dispute over what love is,
what is justice, wisdom, God,
the greatest absurd of all
is for us to kill each other,
to prove we are right.
Proving the exact opposite.
Not so?
van Chapman
Philosophic Community Project
https://twitter.com/van_chapman/media
https://www.facebook.com/naturestudio.net
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This letter is addressed to anyone who might be a 'Dear terrorist'.
I try to give this message in different ways.
Here some explanation of one of the conflicts gearing terrorist attacks:
The main cause of this millenary antagonism and terrorism between Jews and Muslims, is the fact that they call themselves Jews and Muslims, not just human beings.
What divides Jews and Muslims? Their belief.Their ancestral religion which taught them to confuse loyalty with “unquestioning obedience even in a murder"- for a belief.(Abraham).
The order to kill for a belief, gave anyone the right to call others unbelievers, to judge, condemn and even murder them, for a difference of interpretation of their "word of God. This, of course, has resulted in a curse.
Here is the most important point to understand:
One can believe, but cannot prove what God has said or did not say.
In any process of Justice, to judge and condemn someone, one needs proof- not a belief. To commit violence towards anyone out of a belief is not justice.
So, one may not question but one may kill for their belief?
One may not see the contradictions in our words of God, but we must even kill for them?
This is neither human nor divine-this is simply not intelligent, not honest.
This is the work of pride, or submission to pride, not of wisdom or God.
Pride makes our eyes minds and hearts blind to love, to the truth.
To use force, violence, war in name of a belief, to conquer anyone, anything, produces the exact opposite of what is desired:
How can one win another’s heart and mind, any land, anything,violating them?
Best wishes
May the Holy Spirit of love inspire and protect you always.
To Rudi Vranckx with gratitude and admiration.
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Hope it can help someone.
"Voice of eternal love music project".
Best wishes to you. In the Christian concept of paradise, angels play music. Music in itself, can be an expression of, the essence of pure love, but also of anything else. Music can be an expression of love or a higher consciousness or not.
Naturestudio has a philosophical project for digital radio called
'Voice of eternal love music project":
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-In this project we would like to find a musical heaven, an expression of a great soul and spiritual consciousness, independently of what names one gives to God or Master.
Love is higher than the conflicting ideas of God in this world.
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The choice of music for this 'Voice of eternal love music project" will have to agree to very high musical and spiritual standards. As you know there are all kinds of devotional expressions in the world, in churches and temples and so on. But very few express the dignity and beauty of a higher consciousness.
If music is a form of sentimentality, or anger, love for power, or anything else which is not spiritually noble, it is not what we are looking for. If a music is an expression of love for power, or weak subservience to power, it is not what we are looking for, even if it includes the names of Master, Jesus or God.
Some people who are attached to words and names more than to the Spirit of love, may think that a music is sacred if it calls the name of their particular master. Some sects, like the Taliban, even prohibit listening to music. To them the word of their particular prophet God is all, not the heart.
Musically, to the heart, words are not the issue.
Fanaticism is often a disguised form of abuse of power or spiritual insincerity or feebleness. And it will surely sound awful in the ears of God!
This is not the kind of expression we call eternal love.
Naturestudio would like to propose a selection of music for such a program, given that the copyright permissions were obtained for it, and the sending on a radio station done by a radio company.
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Love is higher than the conflicting ideas of God in this world.
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If you have a master, you have to please, do all the master says
so you cannot truly be yourself. If you have a friend,
you must only do what is just, no matter what the master says.
Then you can truly be yourself. Then you can truly call it love.
True angels destroy not men, but the falseness in them-
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If we do not get offended, no one can offend us.
If we clear injustice within us and between us, war is no more.
I think now you got it.
The beauty of things is their own transcendence.
The reason I complained so much about Yogananda's poem to God
is because he was denying the beauty he saw, felt or heard presently, the beauty of flowers, landscapes, faces, while sentimentally, foolishly, longing, looking for it somewhere else.
Love is always in the present.
Sentimentality is always in the future or past.
Sentimentality is not love,
even if it is longing for God.
The beauty, the love that emanates from something,
from someone, is its own transcendence.
If you find love, you find everyone you love.
- My Bonitinha says -of course!
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If you know where to look inside you, writing is like walking on the sea shore open to what is, and suddenlly finding something very beautiful, like a pebble, a seashell, a drawing by the wind and water upon the sand, a transparent water movement, a flying bird. You are simply finding surprizing things along the way!
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A sincere talk with a Muslim law student
-You know it is true, what I try to tell you. You always try looking the other way, in relation to a fault in a fellow Muslim, pointing out instead the same on others. Is this to be Just? You smile, my friend, a mysterious smile, as if in your heart you know that to be one-sided is not to be just.
You blame those you consider enemies of making false propaganda.
Yet you go on and on with your pink glasses. Blaming others of what you justify in yourself and in those you call yours.
You blame those you call enemies, when they justify
something they know is wrong, if in their holy books.
But when you or those you call yours, do the same, you justify it.
Even the worse crimes.
There is no holy ground won by bloody wars, fratricide wars.
(To mention an example, the horrible one Isis is waging, even against other Muslims, for a mere difference of belief..).
But you have no criticism against anyone who calls himself a Muslim.
Against anything written in the Koran, even if a terror story, do you?
May anyone invade rape and kill in name of Allah or God?
You know no one can be right to judge and condemn another blindly,
without proof, without reason, without love. out of belief.
You blame others, those you call enemies,
when they do not see this injustice in themselves,
but when you, or those you call 'your own' do the same,
you justify it...
You know there is no victory in a religion that converts through violation, rape, torture and murder; so how do you justify that?
How can you call crucifying someone an act of self-defence?
Where is the honesty in a regime or religion which converts through brutal force, or one sided pink coloured glasses propaganda in an endless stupid war for domination of minds and territory?
Those you call enemies, like your own,
believe to be "the chosen Ones"...
Those who you call enemies, like your own,
believe to be the ones who are the martyrs,
and their enemies, those who go to hell.
Do you not see the ridiculous of this war?
In fact, the only thing that is evident in a bloody stupid war
is that unquestionable violent beliefs creates a hell for one other.
Because they must silence the opposition,
not with intelligent arguments but by force.
Is that what you call wisdom?
You smile, my friend, when in your heart you know I know
that being an one sided lawyer, who defends his own, however wrong,
blaming others of what he justifies in himself, is being a hypocrite.
Please let your heart speak, because you have a good heart!
No unquestionable violent belief can be holy. Holy is the sincerity,
the true love, and the understanding between people.
Your friend, in love of truth.
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Let beauty enter your mind and heart.
How can we go to heaven when we die,
being unable to see, hear or live the beauty of heaven
when it is here and now?
When we prohibit and destroy the music of angels,
with war-rhythms and patriotic-hymns,
with asphalt and cement, bunkers and bob-wire fences?
The only death which brings light and peace
is the end of arrogance, the end of false thinking.
Heaven is a state of mind and heart.
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To the Taliban, with love. My friend laughs at this, and with her black English humor says for a laugh- 'Then they send you a bomb back as a gift, wrapped with a ribbon!'...
The Taliban, might just agree with me, about the destruction by the Western culture, of the Earth's wild flower fields...I give everyone a chance to see what I see, without discrimination of belief!!
To this some call ‘hurt feelings’:
Any similarity between an offended unreasonable lady
or irrational man, and religious extremism is not a mere coincidence,
but an universal a pattern of the human pride or ego,
in response to (an even fair) criticism.
First there is the emotionally inflammable
easily offended ego,
who is in fact the offensive ego.
A belief not to be reasoned with.
The violent belief.
Then the furious exaggerated words
the unfair ‘you always’ and 'you never'
do this or that...
The cursing to hell wrath of God!
Then, refusing to hear or give any further explanation
ordering you out the door- without discussion, without appeal,
throwing the baby with the bath water !
The violent, unquestionable, belief.
To this some simply call ‘hurt feelings’...
-Nothing further from the truth-
The offended, offensive ego
the violent, unquestioning belief,
is what hinders true feeling,
clear seeing of one another.
The violent, unquestioning belief,
the easily offended- easily offensive ego
is not a reflexion of the Holy Spirit of love,
but of our unreasonable human pride.
To the God of Moses and the God of Mohammed:
26 July 2014
To the God of Moses and the God of Mohammed:
If we are arrogant, proud, unquestionable, we get easily offended, irritated.
then we might even kill for a critic, might even kill unbelievers.
Let us go into it:
If one is arrogant, proud,
one gets easily offended..
If one becomes offended,
emotions, thoughts words and acts
become exaggerated, untrue, unjust.
violent. What then are you proud of?
To set things right, first we must see
and be free of blind emotions,
injustice in thoughts, in words and acts.
One does not kill a friendship1
one does not kill love 2
one does not kill another 3
out of pride and arrogance,
and call himself wise just God.
If I am just, I do not want to destroy God,
but the evil in the name of God,
as you should not want to destroy another,
but the evil in the other.
We ought not to commit suicide,
but destroy, through awareness,
the false thoughts in us.
If one cannot clarify,
if someone thinks wrong of you,
just proudly send him to hell,
in so doing, one may be utterly inhuman,
but not good and not God.
If you can clarify, you do not become offended.
then, how can someone offend you?
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'If the history of Mohammed is true or not, one cannot know,
but it is brutal violence what transforms an organized religion into an organized crime.'
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John 4/7: Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
John 4/8: He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
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You say your Allah is Great, but I say true love is Greater!
'If the history of Mohammed is true or not, one cannot know,
but it is brutal violence what transforms an organized religion into an organized crime.'
van Chapman
John 4/7: Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
John 4/8: He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
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Gaza conflict in a nutshell
The deeper cause of Jewish -Muslim wars
is the theocratic paradigm in the mirror-
To sanctify even bloody murder in name of a belief,
while demonizing its critic self awareness.
Gaza conflict in a nutshell
(edited): 22 July 2014
Israelis invade Palestine, calling Palestinians terrorists, when they fight against this occupation.- Is this just?
We heard these days on Canvas TV news (Terzake), from an Israeli occupant of Palestine, that God had given Israel to the Jews.
This is no dialogue of reason or love. This is a war of blind unquestionable belief, a hopeless war, without light at the end of the tunnel, because no one can prove what God said or did not say.
The injustice, cause of the Israel-Palestine issue is not only a territorial invasion, or the religious schism, between Jewish and Muslim traditions. The deeper cause is the very core of all totalitarian, theocratic regimes: the violence which allows bloody war, but condemns questioning itself.
'unquestioning obedience, even in a murder', is not only at the very core of Jewish and Islamic religion, in the story of Abraham, as a pattern of relationship, but in all tyrannical rule. A commonplace in all irrational, absurd bloody conflicts, wars, énd in particular, religious wars.
Violence in name of God, in name of a belief is what transforms a religion into an organized crime.
How can one truly win someone's heart converting by the sword? Has Hitler, for example, conquered hearts, or brain washed minds?? The belief that blind obedience to a violent religion can bring peace, unity and true collaboration and understanding among all nations, is proved wrong, again and again.
If true self criticism and dialogue could exist between Israelis and Palestinians, there would not be an occupation of Palestine by Israel, nor the separation wall between them, but the possibility of their being truly united nations, mutually beneficial human societies.
The deeper cause of Jewish -Muslim wars is the theocratic paradigma in the mirror--To sanctify even bloody murder in name of a belief, while demonizing its critic self awareness.
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Jews and Muslims must think : - to kill for a belief is evil, except of course, for our belief !...
But it is as impossible to prove that God has given Israel to the Jews as to prove He has given the Koran to the Muslims.
What is obvious,and they do not seem to see of themselves, only of others is that there is no justice in judging and condemning anyone without proof, out of mere belief !
The truth they usually hide from their religious propaganda, is that their sacred books, the Torah as well as the Koran, have punishments so barbaric for breaking ancient rules of conduct that are so inhumanly cruel, no one could execute them, without turning their heart into a stone or the heart of a monster! Thank God there also came a more forgiving Jesus and later a J Krishnamurti in the scene!
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A Jewish friend answered this post by saying that I do not understand what Jews or Muslims believe in, asking to disappear from my mail list. I respect her wish, And did so, with a question:
-If you can explain, when someone misunderstands you, why dismiss them, disappointed?
Yes I may not know what they believe, but maybe Jews and Muslims themselves do not know what they believe in:
Are you sentimental about what some call God of love?
Just see the shameful, horrid executions à la Allah !
(In the photo: victims of a pedofile wedding and a lapidation execution:
-You say Allah, Jehovah, is great. -I say love is greater!
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Yes, How can we ever reach a common understanding with unquestioning beliefs?
The moment you deny feeling to follow another, you become a robot, at the hand of who? Guru? Community? God? If you took the more sincere way of looking at rather than denying your feelings, that is much more real.
In so called spiritual communities it always amazing me how people avoid to see the evident (contradictions) in their authorities.I understand why. Because they are blackmailed by a promise of heaven if they believe; and of hell if they disobey. (the guru, prophet or master).
It makes me feel sick in my stomach all that undiscriminating subservient sweetness of followers...
Because one may not sincerely question a belief, a hell of insurmountable conflicts arise in this Pantheon of beliefs promising heaven.
I rather be alone and have no friends than to be part of it. I agree with Krishnamurti who said the relation Guru-disciple is an unhealthy one.
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Here an example of what I say: BBC
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-16047709
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The impossibility to clear human relations is when we justify what we know is false in ourselves or in what or whom we consider our own, as a belief, for example, and call it loyalty.
A spiritual conflict is always between loyalty to love and one’s ego-
- whether that ego be personal or group related.
The impossibility to clear relations comes from the concealment of what we know is false-wrong -because of pride: self-pride, family pride, national pride, religious pride, whatever... If our privacy disturbs the spiritual clarity between people, I would not call it privacy but pride, lack of humbleness.
When we would rather distance ourselves from a friend than from our personal or group pride, we are in fact not loyal to anyone:- not to our true self nor to another, nor to God, or love, but to the ego -our false thought about what is.
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Dear Muslim, you are taught to fear and not to question Islam.
You are the islamophobe!
Holy war? -Combat falsehood, not those who are false !
That is what saviours do, true fathers & mothers of mankind!
Rather than (Koran) :'kill unbelievers wherever you find them' ,
kill falsehood , wherever you find it - even in your holy books!
I ask Obama how can he reconcile civil freedom and human rights with its antithesis, the Islam ?
Will he say- 'Yes we can?'
No. Only fearless and total sincerity can solve this impasse. By turning a 'politically correct' blind eye to Islam, Obama cannot solve the ISIS problem at its root, in the consciousness.
Only pass the problem on to another...
Whether it is the Islamic State or the United States, the problem with anyone, any state, starts when they forsake and prohibit self-critic honesty. ( turning an 'Islamic correct' or 'politically correct-blind eye' to their own incoherence). Incoherence with what we know is the way of love and love's Justice, simply out of self interests- that is when a religion becomes terrorism, and a state stops the fair peace process to become a tyrannical invading force! Dear Muslims and dear Mr. President, understand this, for the best of all.
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RECENT DIALOGUE WITH A MUSLIM
For a peaceful intelligent solution of Terrorism
You say whatever (even a link to Internet) in name of Allah... Is that Ok with Allah?
From Dialogue with a Muslim
RECENT
__Love or Belief
Dear believer, if you kill the ignorance, the ignorant is no more.!
Or would rather perpetuate ignorance?
Share Your Thoughts:
Should Capital Punishment be Abolished?
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by van Chapman:
How can you ever know if another is happy with you if you keep'm in a cage?
It is not faith, but fear which keeps one encaging others, or being encaged.
He who would kill one for leaving him, belongs to a mafia, not a religion.
Open question: -Is this the USA, is this the Islam, is this your country, is this you?
An attempt of a
Dialogue with a Muslim.
who rather stay anonyme.
Here I will call him Erci.
Here the latest recent exchange with this Muslim asking him if he backed up ISIS :
These talks and mail exchanges go as far back as 2005.
( I must still revise the texts for reading clarity, but here are some extracts to have an idea of this conversation:
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From: G.
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 02:20:56 +0200
To: Erci
Subject: You know the tree by its fruit- More links!
"Muslims kill more people per year than 350 yrs of the Spanish Inquisition"
Latest from a dialogue with a Muslim:
Love or belief? You know the tree by its fruit...
: - Dear Muslim, I worry about you. You certainly see the news, don't you?
Please let me know if you stand after what Isis is doing also!
Is that the Caliphate rule you talked about? More links:
"Al Qaeda declares Jihad against India"
Your friend in love of truth
van Chapman
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Self awareness is the only thing that can resolve fundamentalist religious terrorism. If one become aware of what truly is we call unquestionable authority or belief, one is free of it.
Let no belief hijack your mind or the truth of your heart!
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The Muslim Erci answers:
In his broken English:
07, 2014 11:45 PM
You know the tree by its fruit- More links!
Dear Geraldine,
In The Name Of ALLAH, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful...
First of all its not muslims who kills but terrorist, you never could make the difference for almost 10 years now. So all you're arguments are groundless. And yes I follow the news, and if I'm not mistaking has the Arap Lige ( its the League of muslim counties) condemmed the actions of IS and called it terrorist actions and they declared cooporation to stop this terrorist group. So stop confusing things Geraldine.There are living muslims for 50 years now in Belgium and no one exlpode himself or killed people.So open you're mind and don't use stroman arguments hoping ill fall for them.Be smarter is my message to you -By
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You know the tree by its fruit- More links!
G:-
Dear Erci thank you for not supporting Isis!
But I could not know that.
-What you have been saying to me is that the Caliphate is to return, and the Islam will rule over all the peoples of the earth, what ISIS also says, only that you say that to me with a smile, and ISIS says it burning churches and mosques and killing innocent people as a way to reach this goal.
All the propaganda they make is against themselves and against the face of peace of Islam which you try to give to me, only that you contradict that peace by what you say.. The last thing you said to me when I asked you if you justified the horrors like the crucifixion of prisoners in the Koran (which is totally against the constitution in any civilized country) - you said, and these were your words: 'There must be a reason'...!
So what is the real difference between you and ISIS if you justify terrorism (no matter where it is written)?
Do you think everyone who sees that you contradict yourself are stupid?"
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To me this is true sincerity, so rare these days!
From a Christian ex Muslim addressed to Obama -
I suggest you look at this video and answer what you think of it.
Click to see video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxzOVSMUrGM
Ten MORE Reasons Muhammad Is a False Prophet - David Wood & Sam Shamoun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVp29jA9eCo&list=PLDB147CA34BC46569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxfFrAUBV-U&index=9&list=PL541446AABFB42242
Sent to this Muslim Erci:
Subject: Fw: Love your enemies versus kill your enemies
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 00:40:03 +0200
Ten MORE Reasons Muhammad Is a False Prophet - David Wood & Sam Shamoun
Answer from this Muslim Erci notice how he answer in a personal way but in name of Allah:
September 14, 2014 1:01 AM
In The Name Of ALLAH, The MosT Gracious, The MosT MercifuL,
You make me laugh Geraldine, really.
You ask me Jesus pbuh or Muhammed pbuh, we Muslims believe in all Prophets who were Send by ALLAH, even Mozes, Abraham, John The Baptist pbuh all.
So we accept them all.
But what really made me laugh is that i checked one of this video of 10 reasons that Muhammed pbuh is a False prophet and i listen to it, so he referred to the book of Buharie: volume 1, book 8 hadith nr 367, and i checked it. But the funny part is, that he is reading what is not there. That hadith is talking about praying.
You see how they fool you and will keep fooling you..
And pls. i told you, don't send me those messages, cause they are inaccurate.
Why do you like to stalk me?
Are you obsessed with me or with the Islam?
Dont you have peace in you're life?
Im about to think that you're going crazy
Im telling you to send me positive messages but you keep sending me all negative stuff.
Go and see a psychologist, i think you need one
Or maybe its time to block you cause there isn't any reason left in you
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Is anyone honest, when they Must believe?
Muslims are taught by Mohammed to fear Islam or go to hell.
Muslims are the true islamophobes. I believe in sincere dialogue, not islamophobia.
I believe in in making sense, in being honest in a debate .
Who is being negative here?
You once said to me 'Every thing which is written in the Koran is true"
If the following is in the Koran: “There is no compulsion in religion" (2:256) and: "If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good) (3:85), then yours is a hypocrite contradiction that will not only necessarilly divide people, but divide Muslims themselves forever, unitill they all kill each other for being unbelievers!
I say that: If anyone Must believe, especially that something that makes no sense is just, he cannot be honest, can he?
Christian Muslim or whatever, 'Whether it is Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, their followers or anyone, if you must believe them or they will kill you, how can their's be a religion of peace?'
The only solution is to be honest and distance yourself from the fear of seeing clearly!
David Wood is fair play. Discuss with him if you disagree with him!
[A word of warning for those who may find their version of Quran is translated differently from those appearing in this article: Almost all the translators of Quran have deliberately tried to soften the harsh verses of Quran. Yusufali especially goes out of his way to twists the meaning of the words and hide the harshness of Quran. For example he translates the verse (38:44) that says "take a green branch and beat your wife" as "take a little green grass and strike therewith". Or when he translates the verse (4:34) that says "beat your wife" he cannot help it but to add the word (lightly) in parenthesis.]
Humans are neglecting the responsibility to look critically at their beliefs and at themselves! Yes! we should be asking for example why people do not see as a problem the over population of the Earth by Humans and the toll on nature and our slave animals for consumption! !http://www.occupyforanimals.org/ban-religious-slaughter-throughout-europe.html
September 27, 2014
Subject: RE: Love your enemies versus kill your enemies
Erci answers:
In The Name of Allah, The MosT Gracious, The Most Merciful..
Check this out http://www.ted.com/talks/lesley_hazelton_on_reading_the_koran#t-559103
Greats
(he sends me alink to a Ted Talk on the Koran by a Jewish author lesley hazelton )
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:59:49 +0200
Answer 27, 2014
Geraldine (Naturestudio)
You say whatever (even a link to Internet) in name of Allah... Is that Ok with Allah?
The Promotion Of Human Sacrifice & Cannibalism in Egypt
Commities for the promotion of virtue and prevention of vice carry out this stuff!
Azhari Colleges Egypt teaches this to high school students in Egypt.
See videos:
http://iamnotashamedofthegospelofchrist.com/2013/03/07/the-promotion-of-human-sacrifice-cannibalism-in-egypt/
